Paternal 3x Great Grandparents

 


FRANCIS HOCKING UREN,
bapt January 3rd, 1790 in Gwinear, Cornwall. He was the son
of GEORGE UREN and ELIZABETH UREN (nee HOCKING). He married MARY WATTS
June 22nd 1811 in Phillack, Cornwall. He was living in 1846 but dead by 1851 as his wife
gives her status as a widow. He seems a very elusive character and I cannot find him in 1841
or any record of his death or burial.

MARY WATTS, baptised March 13th 1790 in Phillack, Cornwall; Living 1851 as a visitor with
her sister Jane Watts at Phillack. Although it looks like she actually lived in the same household
as her sister full time.She was the daughter of MARK WATTS and MARY WATTS (nee HOSKING)
of Phillack, Cornwall. Mary was the half sister of the Cornish poet Mark Watts. She died after 5th
December 1851. There are a few intermarriages between the Watts and Hoskin families.

1 FRANCIS HOCKING UREN b: 03 Jan 1790 Gwinear, Cornwall
.. +MARY WATTS b: 13 Mar 1790 Phillack, Cornwall Died 5th December 1851
...... 2 ELIZABETH UREN b: Abt. 1826 Perranuthnoe, Cornwall
........... +JACOB LUKE b: 24 Apr 1825 Phillack, Cornwall
........... 3 MATILDA LUKE b: 1862 Clifton, Bristol
................ +ROBERT GEORGE TAYLOR b: 17 Mar 1863 Cliftonwood, Bristol.
...............4 SIDNEY GEORGE TAYLOR b: 14 Feb 1895 4 Southernhay Crescent, Cliftonwood, Bristol
.................... +LILIAN GIBBONS b: 07 Mar 1897 15 Waterloo Terrace, Old Market, Bristol
.................... 5 NORMAN SIDNEY TAYLOR b: 30 Dec 1926 Bristol
......................... +JOAN MARGARET CREESE b: 18 Jan 1931 Bristol
........................6 PAUL b: 01 Aug 1963 Bristol

1841 Census Folio 39 Page 17 Ventonleague, Phillack, Cornwall

Mary Uren 50 Unreadable & Crossed Out ......In county
Elizth Uren 12 ........................................................ In county *(gt,gt grandmother who married Jacob Luke in 1846)
Jane Watts 55 Unreadable & Crossed Out .... In county (sister to Mary Uren)
Mary Kneebone 25 ............................................... In county (Is Mary Kneebone related ?)
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HO107; Civil Parish: Phillack; County: Cornwall;
Enumeration District: 4; Page: 17; Line: 22; GSU roll: 241265.

Elizabeth is living at Ventonleague, Hayle with her mother Mary Uren (nee Watts) and aunt Jane Watts,
a few houses from her future husband Jacob Luke (who she married in 1846) and his family. No idea
where Francis Uren her father is in 1841 as he is alive in until at least 1846 and dead by 1851.

1851 Census 194,Ventonleague, Phillack, Cornwall

Jane Watts Head U 64 Pauper ........................................... Cornwall, Phillack
Mary Uren Visitor W 62 Pauper .......................................... Cornwall, Phillack
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HO107; Piece: 1916; Folio: 665; Page: 53; GSU roll: 221070.

Mark Watts (Half brother of ancestress Mary Watts) The Royal Cornwall Gazette, Falmouth Packet,
and General Advertiser (Truro, England), Friday, February 28, 1862

 

Children of FRANCIS UREN and MARY UREN (nee WATTS) are:

I'm not convinced by some of this information about the issue of Francis and Mary Uren (nee Watts)
why are some of them living at Kenwyn?

(1) Mary Uren bapt August 30th 1812 in Phillack, Cornwall. died?

(2) Francis Hocking Uren bapt March 27th 1815 in Phillack, Cornwall; died November 27th 1856 in Kenwyn, Cornwall; married Alice Goldsworthy 1835 in Kenwyn, Cornwall. In the 1851 census he was a Copper Miner.

1857 The will of Francis Youren, Kenwyn, Cornwall engine driver

written: 27-Aug 1851 proved: 13-Jun 1857 pages: 249/250 died: 27-Nov 1856 wife - Alice 6 children - Francis, Susan, Jane Sarah, Stephen, Mary Ann, Emma good friends - Bartholomew Youren, Kenwyn miner; Thomas Dunstone, Kenwyn miner
witnesses - Nichs Gilbert, John Painter Source K Weigel Site

He had 6 children - all first cousins of my great grandmother Matilda Taylor (nee Luke) of Bristol

Francis Uren (Brother of My gt, gt grandmother Elizabeth Luke (nee Uren)
The Royal Cornwall Gazette, Falmouth Packet, and General Advertiser (Truro, England),
Friday, December 05, 1856; pg. 5; Issue 2789.

Who is this?



The Royal Cornwall Gazette Falmouth Packet, Cornish Weekly News, & General Advertiser
(Truro, England), Friday, September 09, 1887

.1 : Susan Jane Uren, born in Kenwyn in 1837, died in South Australia the 13 October 1891,
married Charles BATTEN,
the 10 January 1862 in Truro, Cornwall.
: During the 1851 census Susan was recorded as working as a mine girl aged 14)
She had 1 child :------------: Fred BATTEN, born in Victoria, Australia.

Charles Batten, youngest son of Thomas and Elizabeth Batten of Kea, Cornwell, was born on
August 6th 1838. On February 8th, 1862, he married Susan Jane Uren at the Truro Registry Office,
in Cornwell. Susan was the eldest child of Francis Hocking Uren and Alice Goldsworthy, and was born
at Kenwyn in Cornwell on February 27th 1837. Charles Batten was a miner, and he and Susan lived at
Kea for several years. By 1869 they had moved to Gwennap, eight kilometres to the southwest, where
Charles worked as a tin miner, but after about three years they moved again, to Illogan, a similar distance
to the west. These moves were a result of Charles’ attempts to find work. There was a decline in tin mining
in Cornwell from the early 1870’s, followed falling world copper prices later in the decade. It was during this
period that Charles’s brother George moved to Lancashire, another brother John gave up mining for farming,
and Charles decided to emigrate to Australia.

Charles and Susan had a family of nine, including two sets of twins, but three of their boys died in infancy. In
1876, at the age of 38, Charles Batten, with his wife and their six surviving children, sailed for South Australia
aboard the Forfarshire. The ship left London on June2nd 1876, and arrived at Port Adelaide twelve weeks later,
on September 1st. The Battens sailed on a free passage as Charles was a miner, and the three daughters were
all recorded as servants.

At the time of their arrival the copper mines of Wallaroo and Moonta were at their peak production, and there
would have been work available for Cornish miners, but it is unknown where Charles first settled. By September
1881 the family had settled at Stirling North, near Port Augusta, and in 1885 Charles was employed there as a
Railway Station man. Susan Jane Batten died at Port Augusta on October 13th, 1891, and was buried at the
Port Augusta Cemetery the following day. Only six months later Charles remarried, to Johanna Glanville,
(formerly Reynolds, nee Hodge). They were married at the Port Augusta Registry Office on April 23rd 1892.
At the time Charles was a labourer, of Port Augusta, while Johanna was twice widowed, and had at least three
small children. Charles was fifty-four years of age, and Johanna was only thirty-five. Charles was reputedly a
‘drinker’ and it seems that he soon deserted his new family. Johanna remarried again in December 1894,
as Johanna Glanville, widow. If Charles had died she would have been the widow Johanna Batten, and if
they had divorced she would have been recorded as such when she married. Perhaps Charles agreed to
leave the district, as I have not been able to find another record of him in South Australia.
Charles Batten’s movements for the next twenty years are as yet unknown to me, but he died at Minindie,
in New South Wales, on December 31st, 1912. He is recorded as a labourer and old age pensioner, and
his cause of death is given as senile decay. His death certificate states that he was buried on the same day
in the Menindie Church of England Cemetery, but there is no record there of his burial. Source

.2 : Sarah Uren, born in Kenwyn in 1838, died in Kenwyn in 1857.
(Notes : Never married. During the 1851 census Sarah was recorded as working as a mine girl - aged 12)

.3 : Francis Hocking Uren, born in Kenwyn in 1840.
: During the 1851 census Francis was recorded as working as an apprentice Shoemaker - aged 15, married
1867 in South Australia)

.4 : Stephen Goldsworthy Uren, born in Kenwyn in 1845, died in Kenwyn in 1854. (Notes : Unmarried.

In the 1851 census Stephen was recorded as working as a Mine Boy - aged 5)

.5 : Mary Anne Uren, born in Kenwyn in 1847.

.6 : Emma Uren, born in Kenwyn in 1849.

(3) Bartholomew Hocking Uren baptised February 22nd 1818 in Phillack, Cornwall ;died in 1837
unmarried aged about 17 years. If he died in 1837 then who is this below ?

1841 Census Killbeor? Kenwyn, Cornwall

Bartholomew Uren 20 Copper Miner ...... Born in County
Mary Uren 24 ................................................. Born in County
Richard Uren 3 .............................................. Born in County
Francis Uren 10mths ................................... Born in County
Samuel Bath 50 Husbandman .................. Born in County
Eliza Tryoning 20 MS ? ............................... Born in County
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HO107; Civil Parish: Kenwyn; County: Cornwall;
Enumeration District: 15; Page: 11; Line: 20; GSU roll: 241269

(4) Thomas Hocking Uren baptised September 9th 1821 Phillack, Cornwall ; Died in 1837 unmarried aged
about 16 years

(5) ELIZABETH UREN born abt 1826 in Perranuthnoe, Cornwall; she was baptised in 1846 as an
adult just prior to her marriage, died in Bristol; married JACOB LUKE December 1846 in Hayle, Phillack,
Cornwall. gt gt grandparents. No idea why the Uren family were in Perranuthnoe, Cornwall for Elizabeth's birth.